{"id":222,"date":"2007-02-06T05:01:13","date_gmt":"2007-02-06T11:01:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelhyatt.com\/?p=222"},"modified":"2007-02-06T05:01:13","modified_gmt":"2007-02-06T11:01:13","slug":"q-a-with-christian-retailing-about-bestseller-lists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fullfocus.co\/q-a-with-christian-retailing-about-bestseller-lists\/","title":{"rendered":"Q &#038; A with <em>Christian Retailing<\/em> About Bestseller Lists"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"bigcap\">R<\/span>ecently, I wrote a post entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.michaelhyatt.com\/fromwhereisit\/2006\/12\/why_bestseller_.html\">Why the Bestsellers Lists Are Inaccurate<\/a>. I followed this up a few days later with another post on the same topic entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.michaelhyatt.com\/fromwhereisit\/2006\/12\/toward_a_better.html\">Toward a Better Bestsellers List<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.michaelhyatt.com\/fromwhereisit\/christianretailing-1.jpg\" height=\"302\" width=\"360\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"4\" vspace=\"4\" alt=\"Christianretailing-1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Andy Butcher, the editor of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianretailing.com\/\">Christian Retailing<\/a> magazine, read the posts. He then sent me an email with several questions. I agreed to answer them, provided I could do so on my blog. I also agreed to wait until his article was published before I published my answers to his questions.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nAndy\u2019s article was published this week in the February 12 issue of <em>Christian Retailing<\/em>. Unfortunately, you can\u2019t read it online unless you are already a subscriber. Nevertheless, here is the full text of our original exchange.<\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 1 --><\/p>\n<p class=\"extraspace\"><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">Who\u2019s the \u201cwe\u201d that needs a better list? publishers? Christian publishers? the whole industry? retailers?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>Yes, all of the above. Consumers want an accurate bestsellers list because they want to know what everyone else is reading that they might have missed. Retailers need an accurate bestsellers list because they need to make sure that they are stocking what the public wants. Christian Publishers want an accurate bestsellers list because they are tired of their titles being marginalized. They want visibility for their best titles.  They want to connect with consumers who might be interested in their titles\u2014if only they had the opportunity to discover them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 2 --><\/p>\n<p class=\"extraspace\"><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">Has AAP considered your idea\/suggestion at any stage?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>I have not spoken with anyone at AAP. As I said in my first post, I don\u2019t think that an AAP bestsellers list is the best solution. All they can measure is <em>sell-in<\/em> as reported by publishers. It would be better than what we have now, but it wouldn\u2019t be ideal. We need a list that reports on <em>sell-through<\/em> (sales at the cash register) from as many retailers as possible. I am still hopeful that we can do this.<\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 3 --><\/p>\n<p>&lt;<\/p>\n<p>p class=&#8221;extraspace&#8221;><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">What\u2019s the history of Christian retailers\u2019 refusal to participate with Nielsen? Were they specifically approached, and declined? If so, when? Did CBA have a part in that process?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>That\u2019s a question you would have to ask them. I have only heard the reports anecdotally from various Christian retailers. Several have expressed their opposition to any program that would put their data into the hands of general market booksellers. While this is very different, in my opinion, the reluctance of some Christian retailers to participate in the STATS program is indicative of this attitude.<\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 4 --><\/p>\n<p class=\"extraspace\"><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">You question the validity of Christian retailers\u2019 concerns over data being shared. Does this mean you\u2019d question, too, the validity\/wisdom of the CBA Cross-Scan project, as that was initiated in response to such fears?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>Yes, I do question the validity of some arguments I have heard. For example, some retailers have complained that publishers were sharing STATS data with general market retailers. Perhaps they were. I don\u2019t know. I can\u2019t speak for every publisher. But I keep asking, \u201cwhat data were they sharing?\u201d If they were sharing a list of CBA bestsellers, they didn\u2019t have to get it from STATS. That information is readily available from CBA itself and even <em>Christian Retailing<\/em>. If it\u2019s a deeper list of product than these sources provide, you have to ask, \u201cWhy would a publisher share information about a competitor\u2019s products?\u201d If a general market retailer wanted to get this information, all he would have to do is ask Christian publishers for a list of their top-selling titles. They could have their list in twenty-four hours without ever so much as glancing at STATS data.<\/p>\n<p>But even if this has happened\u2014and I am not convinced that it has\u2014ECPA has gone out of its way to warn its member publishers that sharing this data is a clear violation of our agreement with CBA. The new PubTracks system that ECPA is promoting has built-in security that reminds publishers every time they log in that this data cannot be shared. If we find that someone has violated their agreement, we are fully prepared to boot them out of the program. I don\u2019t know what else we can do.<\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 5 --><\/p>\n<p class=\"extraspace\"><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">You\u2019re writing as Thomas Nelson\u2019s chief, of course, but you are also the ECPA chairman. Are you concerned that your comments may be seen as a criticism of CBA\/Christian retailers?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>Yes, somewhat. I love the Christian retail industry. As a new Christian at the age of eighteen, I was nurtured by my local Christian bookseller and his wife. I can honestly say that I wouldn\u2019t be where I am today if they hadn\u2019t taken me under their wing and encouraged me in my faith. They put just the right book in my hands at just the right time. Somehow, they knew exactly what I needed. I will be forever grateful to them for having the courage to start a Christian bookstore in a very small town, believing that God had called them to this work.<\/p>\n<p>Christian retailers are crucial\u2014really, foundational\u2014to the work of reaching this generation for Christ. They have the passion and the expertise to make a real difference. But, unfortunately, I have seen a spirit of fear and protectionism replace that passion in some retailers. This is spiritually unhealthy. It also does not make for good business decisions.<\/p>\n<p>Honestly, we have been dancing around these issues for too long. Sometimes I feel that we are \u201cwalking on eggshells\u201d with one another. Everyone is afraid to speak their mind. But I think that now is a time for truth. We are family. We must be honest with one another. We must seek to solve our common problems together. Whether we like it or not, we are joined at the hip. And, more importantly, we are joined at the heart. Our success is bound-up together. I can\u2019t have a healthy publishing business without a healthy CBA channel. Likewise, CBA retailers can\u2019t have healthy businesses without healthy publishers. We need each other.<\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 6 --><\/p>\n<p class=\"extraspace\"><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">Isn\u2019t there a danger that if Christian books get a higher profile, that the general market will only see even more what a lucrative field they are, so that rather than help Christian retail, such exposure would only hasten\/heighten its demise?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>I think this is extremely dangerous thinking. I understand it, but I think it is wrong. It is similar to what the Israelites did in the time of Jesus. They wanted to protect their \u201cfranchise,\u201d their exclusive claim to the things of God. But that wasn\u2019t Jesus\u2019 purpose in coming. He came <em>for the whole world<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>As a practical matter, greater visibility for Christian books only drives demand for those books. That\u2019s good for everyone. What Christian retailers need is more customers\u2014new customers. If people are discovering Christian books in the general culture, great. I still maintain that they will eventually find their way to a Christian bookstore where they can find a much broader, deeper selection of products.<\/p>\n<p>But this is where Christian retailers must be clear on their strategy. It\u2019s not about price or even convenience. Both are important, but their primary strategy has to be about selection. That\u2019s the value they add and the only way they can successfully compete against general market retailers.<\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 7 --><\/p>\n<p class=\"extraspace\"><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">Is there any chance that Christian retail participation in Bookscan might be revisited?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>I hope so. But ultimately this will depend on CBA and on the stores themselves. In the meantime, ECPA is working on creating a multi-channel bestsellers list.<\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 8 --><\/p>\n<p class=\"extraspace\"><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">Have you shared any of these thoughts with CBA\/Christian retailers?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>I have only spoken with a few retailers here and there. Frankly, I have only come to these conclusions in recent months. I am hoping that these posts can serve as a foundation for further dialog. If I am wrong, I am willing to be corrected. \u201cIron sharpens iron.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!-- Question 9 --><\/p>\n<p class=\"extraspace\"><span class=\"dropcap\">Q<\/span><span class=\"question\">Have you had any response\/feedback since posting these comments?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>You can read the comments on the original posts. Most have been positive. I haven\u2019t deleted any. I have also received a few e-mails from Christian retailers and other publishers. All have been supportive.<\/p>\n<p>I think there is a growing movement within our industry. People are beginning to sense that the old wineskins must be exchanged for new ones. The paradigm has to change. It\u2019s a new world, and we can\u2019t roll back the clock. What we desperately need is leadership. We need people who are willing to embrace the world Christ died for. We need people who rejoice that the Gospel is being spread\u2014regardless of the channel God uses. If we do that, then we have the privilege of co-laboring with the Lord Himself. If we don\u2019t, then, quite frankly, we run the risk of not merely resisting change, but resisting the One who is forever making all things new (see 2 Cor. 5:17;  Rev. 21:5).<\/p>\n<p><!-- technorati tags start --><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:right;font-size:10px;\">Technorati Tags: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/tag\/bestsellers\" rel=\"tag\">bestsellers<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/tag\/books\" rel=\"tag\">books<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/tag\/cba\" rel=\"tag\">cba<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/tag\/publishing\" rel=\"tag\">publishing<\/a><\/p>\n<p><!-- technorati tags end --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\nRecently, I wrote a post entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.michaelhyatt.com\/fromwhereisit\/2006\/12\/why_bestseller_.html\">Why the Bestsellers Lists Are Inaccurate<\/a>. 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